• Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY

    From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to all on Wed May 8 11:59:21 2024
    Re: Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to phigan on Wed May 08 2024 07:16 am

    Re: Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
    By: phigan to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue May 07 2024 06:54 pm

    I think there was a cornhole fad that came and went sometime in the past decade. Kinda doubting there'll be another. There are always more dumb games, though.

    Can Confirm, after seeing a professional slapping contest.


    now you guys are taking my transgender day topic into the world
    of cornholing.

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Dumas Walker on Wed May 8 16:01:04 2024
    On Wed, 8 May 2024 14:19:00 -0500, you wrote:

    Indeed and, if they do, they've certainly never been tailgating at a college football game. ;)

    Or camping, or backyard parties, or summer weekend festivals, or bars, etc. Cornhole (or simply "bags") has been around for probably a decade or more. Probably almost as long as disc golf.

    It started out as a backyard past-time, because what else were we supposed to do after our lawn darts got taken away. :(

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  • From Ed Vance@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Dumas Walker on Wed May 8 15:01:02 2024
    I worked rotating 8 hour shifts.
    My last year at work another facility started doing 3 12 hour shifts one week, and 4 12 hour shifts the second week and told someone where I worked about how often they had long weekends.
    I didn't want to go to the 12 hour deal.
    To Me, after 8 hours of work I wanted Overtime Pay.

    After I retired the schedule changed to 12 hours.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Dumas Walker on Wed May 8 18:47:47 2024
    Re: Cornhole
    By: Dumas Walker to GAMGEE on Wed May 08 2024 09:19 am

    I think there was a cornhole fad that came and went sometime in
    the past decade. Kinda doubting there'll be another. There are
    always more dumb games, though.

    Not sure where you live, but it certainly isn't in the SouthEastern USA.

    Indeed and, if they do, they've certainly never been tailgating at a college football game. ;)

    You got that right! Or many other social functions/weekend activities! :-)

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Accession on Thu May 9 07:08:00 2024
    Accession wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    It started out as a backyard past-time, because what else were we
    supposed to do after our lawn darts got taken away. :(

    Lawn Darts - part of our unsafe childhoods. Drinking out of garden
    hoses, bikes without helmets (sometimes without shoes!), and metal
    playground slides on concrete...



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ED VANCE on Thu May 9 09:07:00 2024
    I worked rotating 8 hour shifts.
    My last year at work another facility started doing 3 12 hour shifts one week,
    and 4 12 hour shifts the second week and told someone where I worked about how
    often they had long weekends.
    I didn't want to go to the 12 hour deal.
    To Me, after 8 hours of work I wanted Overtime Pay.

    The last place I worked, you could choose to work 5x8, 4x10, or 4x9+1x4. I thought it would not be bad to have a half or full day off, but after 8
    hours I was usually worn out mentally so I chose to stay on that schedule.

    I agree, if I went over 8 in a day I thought I deserved something extra. ;)


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ACCESSION on Thu May 9 09:15:00 2024
    Or camping, or backyard parties, or summer weekend festivals, or bars, etc. Cornhole (or simply "bags") has been around for probably a decade or more. Probably almost as long as disc golf.

    I suspect so. Disc golf has been around as long as I can remember (I am in
    my 50s). When I was a teen, at least one of the local parks had a course.
    The last time I was by there, they have allowed that area of the park to
    grow wild. I would not normally think that to be a bad thing but since
    they let it fill up with, or planted, a very large number of bradford pears
    (an invasive species) I don't think it was such a hot idea as they are not letting it "return to (the) nature (of the area)" at all.

    I suspect "planted" as a recent interstate project now has an overabundance
    of the same trees growning in the enlarged median.

    It started out as a backyard past-time, because what else were we supposed to do after our lawn darts got taken away. :(

    Yep! LOL. I have always thought of cornhole as a more portable version of horseshoes. I remember a friend having those lawn darts ("jarts," which
    may have been a brand name). We'd play with them in the early twilight,
    under an ourdoor light they had in the backyard. I was 9 or 10 but never thought of them as dangerous since we knew not to throw them towards people.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thu May 9 09:36:00 2024
    now you guys are taking my transgender day topic into the world
    of cornholing.

    it was only a matter of time and not surprised by the contributers.

    LOL, I often wondered what people would think when they found out that our then-Governor named cornhole an official sport. :O :D


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu May 9 09:47:55 2024
    Re: Re: Cornhole
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Accession on Thu May 09 2024 07:08 am

    Lawn Darts - part of our unsafe childhoods. Drinking out of garden hoses, bikes without helmets (sometimes without shoes!), and metal playground slides on concrete...

    I was never one to be outside without shoes, but growing up in the 80s and 90s, I think I may have been part of the last generation where parents were okay with their kids going outside to play in the neighborhood for hours and come back for dinner. And some kids were also getting a Nintendo or other game console (or maybe a computer) and then wanted to play on that rather than going outside..

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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to ACCESSION on Fri May 10 06:17:00 2024
    Quoting Accession to Dumas Walker <=-

    It started out as a backyard past-time, because what else were we
    supposed to do after our lawn darts got taken away. :(

    We have the new lawn darts now. It's bean bags instead of the metal
    dart on the end. Just not as much fun without that fear of getting
    a lawn dart through the top of the noggin.

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Tiny on Fri May 10 06:44:48 2024
    On Fri, 10 May 2024 11:17:00 -0500, you wrote:

    We have the new lawn darts now. It's bean bags instead of the metal
    dart on the end. Just not as much fun without that fear of getting
    a lawn dart through the top of the noggin.

    I don't remember there ever being a fear of that back in those days. Players got out of the way when people were throwing, points were scored, and fun was had. I'm guessing stupid people ruined it for the rest of us - or better yet, sue happy people that wanted to earn their money the easy way.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Fri May 10 10:23:00 2024
    I was never one to be outside without shoes, but growing up in the 80s and 90s
    I think I may have been part of the last generation where parents were okay with their kids going outside to play in the neighborhood for hours and come back for dinner.

    Those were certainly the days.

    I am not one to go out without shoes, either. My bare feed had a tendency
    to find little bits of glass, and the occassional bee, so I quickly learned that some form of foot covering was a good idea. ;)


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Fri May 10 06:31:00 2024
    Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I was never one to be outside without shoes, but growing up in the 80s
    and 90s, I think I may have been part of the last generation where
    parents were okay with their kids going outside to play in the neighborhood for hours and come back for dinner.

    Late elementary school and middle school for me were those days - we
    started riding bikes religiously and would go for miles. And, common
    sense prevailed - when it got dark (and we got hungry!) you'd head
    home.




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Fri May 10 06:34:00 2024
    Dumas Walker wrote to ED VANCE <=-

    The last place I worked, you could choose to work 5x8, 4x10, or
    4x9+1x4. I thought it would not be bad to have a half or full day off, but after 8 hours I was usually worn out mentally so I chose to stay on that schedule.

    The half day off schedule sounds like a good compromise. Were you
    an hourly employee?

    Being salaried made alternative schedules seem hollow. I'd end up
    working 5x10 and never feel like I could choose an alternative schedule.



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri May 10 12:43:15 2024
    Re: Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Fri May 10 2024 06:34 am

    Being salaried made alternative schedules seem hollow. I'd end up working 5x10 and never feel like I could choose an alternative schedule.

    Even for salaried employees, I always thought 40 hours per week was still considered a fairly standard thing and extra hours wouldn't be a common thing.

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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to ACCESSION on Sat May 11 06:43:00 2024
    Quoting Accession to Tiny <=-

    I don't remember there ever being a fear of that back in those days. Players got out of the way when people were throwing, points were
    scored, and fun was had. I'm guessing stupid people ruined it for the
    rest of us - or better yet, sue happy people that wanted to earn their money the easy way.

    Probably some idiot got one through the foot or something and that was that
    ban it for everyone.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tiny on Sat May 11 21:30:45 2024
    Re: Cornhole
    By: Tiny to ACCESSION on Fri May 10 2024 06:17 am

    Quoting Accession to Dumas Walker <=-

    It started out as a backyard past-time, because what else were we supposed to do after our lawn darts got taken away. :(

    We have the new lawn darts now. It's bean bags instead of the metal
    dart on the end. Just not as much fun without that fear of getting
    a lawn dart through the top of the noggin.

    Shawn

    man i stuck one of those into a garage once and got my ass beat.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Accession on Sat May 11 21:32:51 2024
    Re: Cornhole
    By: Accession to Tiny on Fri May 10 2024 06:44 am

    On Fri, 10 May 2024 11:17:00 -0500, you wrote:

    We have the new lawn darts now. It's bean bags instead of the metal dart on the end. Just not as much fun without that fear of getting
    a lawn dart through the top of the noggin.

    I don't remember there ever being a fear of that back in those days. Players got out of the way when people were throwing, points were scored, and fun was had. I'm guessing stupid people ruined it for the rest of us - or better yet, sue happy people that wanted to earn their money the easy way.

    Regards,
    Nick


    probably kids that got hurt. my buddy is a genius electrical engineer and more, but when he was a kid he was a fucking retard. like he stuck his fingers into bike spokes when the bike was upside down and people were cranking it. it chopped off 2 fingers.

    he also almost died several times, drowning, stuck upside down in a tree, etc. i saved him tons of times.

    if this guy played with jarts as a kid he would have lost an eye.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat May 11 21:34:06 2024
    Re: Kids Playing Outdoors
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Fri May 10 2024 10:23 am

    I was never one to be outside without shoes, but growing up in the 80s and 90s
    I think I may have been part of the last generation where parents were okay with their kids going outside to play in the neighborhood for hours and come back for dinner.

    Those were certainly the days.

    I am not one to go out without shoes, either. My bare feed had a tendency to find little bits of glass, and the occassional bee, so I quickly learned that some form of foot covering was a good idea. ;)


    i go out barefoot all the time. neighbors smashed some beer bottles behind my garage and i stepped in it and pulled out a big chunk. i barely bled. my feet are so tough from the safety shoes and constant standing and walking for 30 years.
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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to MRO on Sun May 12 05:49:00 2024
    Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

    dart on the end. Just not as much fun without that fear of getting
    a lawn dart through the top of the noggin.
    man i stuck one of those into a garage once and got my ass beat.

    Laugh, I can see that. If you stuck one into my place we'd have
    words for sure. :)


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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to MRO on Sun May 12 06:44:53 2024
    Re: Cornhole
    By: MRO to Tiny on Sat May 11 2024 09:30 pm

    man i stuck one of those into a garage once and got my ass beat.

    I stuck a regular dart into my little brother's head one time and also got my ass beat! I threw it straight up into the air and it came down on the top of his head and stuck there... it's funny to think about it now but it wasn't very funny back then.

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to MRO on Sun May 12 11:09:16 2024
    On Sun, 12 May 2024 02:32:50 -0500, you wrote:

    probably kids that got hurt. my buddy is a genius electrical engineer
    and more, but when he was a kid he was a fucking retard. like he stuck
    his fingers into bike spokes when the bike was upside down and people
    were cranking it. it chopped off 2 fingers.

    he also almost died several times, drowning, stuck upside down in a
    tree, etc. i saved him tons of times.

    Probably a good thing he went to college then. I could only imagine what he would have done to himself out in the field.

    if this guy played with jarts as a kid he would have lost an eye.

    Sometimes, natural selection works wonders. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to MRO on Sun May 12 12:09:48 2024
    Re: Cornhole
    By: MRO to Accession on Sat May 11 2024 09:32 pm

    probably kids that got hurt. my buddy is a genius electrical engineer and more, but when he was a kid he was a fucking retard. like he stuck his fingers into bike spokes when the bike was upside down and people were cranking it. it chopped off 2 fingers.


    Yep, I think the final straw was there were a few kids being nutsacks throwing them way up in the air and seeing how far they would stick in the ground.

    one kid deicded it would be a great idea to launch it over the house. landed in his little sister's skull who was playing in the front yard.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sun May 12 16:20:00 2024
    The last place I worked, you could choose to work 5x8, 4x10, or
    4x9+1x4. I thought it would not be bad to have a half or full day off, but after 8 hours I was usually worn out mentally so I chose to stay on that schedule.

    The half day off schedule sounds like a good compromise. Were you
    an hourly employee?

    Being salaried made alternative schedules seem hollow. I'd end up
    working 5x10 and never feel like I could choose an alternative schedule.

    It was sort of weird. They called us "salaried" but any time worked beyond
    40 hours/week was considered OT that we earned comp time for. Early on, we
    had the option to get paid or earn comp but they eventually converted most employees a few levels above entry to comp only.

    OTOH, if we worked less than 40/week and had no leave time, you only got
    paid for the hours you worked. So I would call that "hourly" but they
    didn't. ;)


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ACCESSION on Sun May 12 16:36:00 2024
    I don't remember there ever being a fear of that back in those days. Players got out of the way when people were throwing, points were scored, and fun was had. I'm guessing stupid people ruined it for the rest of us - or better yet, sue happy people that wanted to earn their money the easy way.

    That would be my guess also, and I feel fairly confident in it. ;)


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tiny on Sun May 12 17:06:27 2024
    Re: Cornhole
    By: Tiny to MRO on Sun May 12 2024 05:49 am

    Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

    dart on the end. Just not as much fun without that fear of getting
    a lawn dart through the top of the noggin.
    man i stuck one of those into a garage once and got my ass beat.

    Laugh, I can see that. If you stuck one into my place we'd have
    words for sure. :)


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Accession on Sun May 12 17:09:34 2024
    Re: Cornhole
    By: Accession to MRO on Sun May 12 2024 11:09 am


    probably kids that got hurt. my buddy is a genius electrical engineer and more, but when he was a kid he was a fucking retard. like he stuck his fingers into bike spokes when the bike was upside down and people were cranking it. it chopped off 2 fingers.

    he also almost died several times, drowning, stuck upside down in a tree, etc. i saved him tons of times.

    Probably a good thing he went to college then. I could only imagine what he would have done to himself out in the field.



    well he's a late bloomer. he did have kids very young with a woman who is now a they/them lesbian. but that's normal now. i don't think his parents paid him enough attention as a kid. they let their kids run wild.

    he joined the marines and got into electronics and he's a good auto mechanic now too. marines didn't do as much for him career wise, but paid for school, housing and he has the Va.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DaiTengu on Sun May 12 17:10:13 2024
    Re: Cornhole
    By: DaiTengu to MRO on Sun May 12 2024 12:09 pm

    Re: Cornhole
    By: MRO to Accession on Sat May 11 2024 09:32 pm

    probably kids that got hurt. my buddy is a genius electrical engineer and more, but when he was a kid he was a fucking retard. like he stuck his fingers into bike spokes when the bike was upside down and people were cranking it. it chopped off 2 fingers.


    Yep, I think the final straw was there were a few kids being nutsacks throwing them way up in the air and seeing how far they would stick in the ground.

    one kid deicded it would be a great idea to launch it over the house.
    landed in his little sister's skull who was playing in the front yard.


    maybe they should have sold them with ten helmets.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tiny on Mon May 13 00:17:39 2024
    Re: Cornhole
    By: MRO to Tiny on Sun May 12 2024 05:06 pm

    Re: Cornhole
    By: Tiny to MRO on Sun May 12 2024 05:49 am

    Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

    dart on the end. Just not as much fun without that fear of getting
    a lawn dart through the top of the noggin.
    man i stuck one of those into a garage once and got my ass beat.

    Laugh, I can see that. If you stuck one into my place we'd have
    words for sure. :)


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    well i didn't mean to throw it. it's just weighted to cause damage like that.

    i mean i didnt mean to throw it through the garage. i meant to toss it on the grass NEAR the garage
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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to MRO on Mon May 13 06:09:00 2024
    Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

    i mean i didnt mean to throw it through the garage. i meant to toss
    it on the grass NEAR the garage

    That's alright. ;) The new ones I don't think would even hurt if you
    took one to the head. It's just bean bags now.

    Shawn


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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to DUMAS WALKER on Mon May 13 06:14:00 2024
    Quoting Dumas Walker to Poindexter Fortran <=-

    OTOH, if we worked less than 40/week and had no leave time, you only
    got paid for the hours you worked. So I would call that "hourly" but
    they didn't. ;)

    I'm hourly; the new manager asked me the other day why I had so many hours
    on my time sheet. I said "That's because you scheduled meetings on Friday which is supposed to be my day off." He looked shocked and said "Why would
    you write down the hours!?"

    Sigh. I need to know how to tell them I only work so I can live, I don't
    think about nor care one little bit about the company when walk out the
    door.

    Shawn

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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to MRO on Mon May 13 05:21:06 2024
    Re: Kids Playing Outdoors
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sat May 11 2024 09:34 pm

    i go out barefoot all the time. neighbors smashed some beer bottles behind my garage and i stepped in it and pulled out a big chunk. i barely bled. my feet are so tough from the safety shoes and constant standing and walking for 30 years.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tiny on Mon May 13 15:07:25 2024
    Re: Cornhole
    By: Tiny to MRO on Mon May 13 2024 06:09 am

    Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

    i mean i didnt mean to throw it through the garage. i meant to toss
    it on the grass NEAR the garage

    That's alright. ;) The new ones I don't think would even hurt if you
    took one to the head. It's just bean bags now.

    Shawn

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tiny on Mon May 13 15:08:27 2024
    Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: Tiny to DUMAS WALKER on Mon May 13 2024 06:14 am

    Quoting Dumas Walker to Poindexter Fortran <=-

    OTOH, if we worked less than 40/week and had no leave time, you only got paid for the hours you worked. So I would call that "hourly" but they didn't. ;)

    I'm hourly; the new manager asked me the other day why I had so many hours on my time sheet. I said "That's because you scheduled meetings on Friday which is supposed to be my day off." He looked shocked and said "Why would you write down the hours!?"

    sound like new manager is an idiot. isnt it illegal to work without pay?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to The Lizard Master on Mon May 13 15:10:03 2024
    Re: Kids Playing Outdoors
    By: The Lizard Master to MRO on Mon May 13 2024 05:21 am

    Re: Kids Playing Outdoors
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sat May 11 2024 09:34 pm

    i go out barefoot all the time. neighbors smashed some beer bottles behind my garage and i stepped in it and pulled out a big chunk. i barely bled. my feet are so tough from the safety shoes and constant standing and walking for 30 years.

    Cody Lundin style.

    well i dont walk around town barefoot. i would get hepatitis.
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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Tiny on Mon May 13 12:46:00 2024
    Hello Tiny!

    ** On Monday 13.05.24 - 06:14, Tiny wrote to DUMAS WALKER:

    I'm hourly; the new manager asked me the other day why I
    had so many hours on my time sheet. I said "That's because
    you scheduled meetings on Friday which is supposed to be my
    day off." He looked shocked and said "Why would you write
    down the hours!?"

    That's hilarious.

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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to MRO on Tue May 14 04:15:00 2024
    Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

    it's no fun if you're not throwing a big metal spike

    Agreed.

    Shawn

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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to OGG on Tue May 14 04:15:00 2024
    Quoting Ogg to Tiny <=-

    day off." He looked shocked and said "Why would you write
    down the hours!?"
    That's hilarious.

    They loooooooove to work at my place. The company culture is work
    400 hours a week for little to no pay and like it.

    When I hit 8 hours I pack up and leave. I only work so I can live, I
    will never live to work again. :)

    Shawn

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to TINY on Tue May 14 08:51:00 2024
    I'm hourly; the new manager asked me the other day why I had so many hours
    on my time sheet. I said "That's because you scheduled meetings on Friday which is supposed to be my day off." He looked shocked and said "Why would you write down the hours!?"

    If they schedule anyhing mandatory outside of my working hours, I am
    charging them for it.

    Sigh. I need to know how to tell them I only work so I can live, I don't think about nor care one little bit about the company when walk out the
    door.

    I do also but, even when I am working somewhere that I like, what I said
    above holds true. ;)


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Tue May 14 07:08:00 2024
    Dumas Walker wrote to ACCESSION <=-

    I don't remember there ever being a fear of that back in those days. Players got out of the way when people were throwing, points were scored, and fun
    as
    had.

    That would be my guess also, and I feel fairly confident in it. ;)

    Sigh. I remember common sense, too.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Tiny on Tue May 14 07:10:00 2024
    Tiny wrote to DUMAS WALKER <=-

    I'm hourly; the new manager asked me the other day why I had so many
    hours on my time sheet. I said "That's because you scheduled meetings
    on Friday which is supposed to be my day off." He looked shocked and
    said "Why would you write down the hours!?"

    I'm dying to hear what your response was...





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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Tiny on Tue May 14 07:44:00 2024
    Tiny wrote to OGG <=-

    They loooooooove to work at my place. The company culture is work
    400 hours a week for little to no pay and like it.

    Back in the 90s, when I was young, I worked at a small company that did
    all of the things that small companies do to maximize hours - make a
    culture that promoted "hero worship", bringing dinners in to people who
    worked late, and promoted a "family" mindset - plus, we were all working
    to make the world a better place. :)

    It would have been the most inbred family ever - since no one got a
    change to have a life outside of work, people dated within the office.
    At one point we started doing time cards, and I was working 70-80 hour
    weeks.

    Of course, the family metaphor fell apart when the company pivoted and
    laid off 1/3 of the company. One spouse was laid off while the other
    retained and lots of couples split up in the layoffs. These were people
    who were used to living work, partying with co-workers and going out
    with them.

    As my long-time co-sysop used to say "The company is not your friend."



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue May 14 11:58:48 2024
    Re: Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tiny on Tue May 14 2024 07:44 am

    Back in the 90s, when I was young, I worked at a small company that did all of the things that small companies do to maximize hours - make a culture that promoted "hero worship", bringing dinners in to people who worked late, and promoted a "family" mindset - plus, we were all working to make the world a better place. :)

    Of course, the family metaphor fell apart when the company pivoted and laid off 1/3 of the company.

    As my long-time co-sysop used to say "The company is not your friend."

    Recently I watched a video on YouTube with someone talking about things companies sometimes say in an interview that might be red flags. One of the things was "we're like family here", or similar. He was saying what that means is they'd probably expect their employees to work long hours, maybe without extra pay, and the company would probably lay off employees when it comes down to it.

    And layoffs seem to be fairly common with tech companies. I've personally been through several layoffs.. I feel like I just want to watch out for myself and what I need as far as employment and compensation goes. Companies certainly seem to mainly care about themselves and won't be afraid to let people go when they deem it necessary.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tue May 14 19:26:12 2024
    Re: Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue May 14 2024 11:58 am


    Recently I watched a video on YouTube with someone talking about things companies sometimes say in an interview that might be red flags. One of the things was "we're like family here", or similar. He was saying what that means is they'd probably expect their employees to work long hours, maybe without extra pay, and the company would probably lay off employees when it comes down to it.


    when i hear 'we are like family' i think disfunctional family.
    that's certainly a red flag. that was an old expression that most workplaces no longer use because they know it's a red flag. if they are saying it now, they are double fucked up.

    other red flags:

    A resistance to change even though they say they want to or need to. i was at an old company that couldn't change it's old ways

    When there's a big problem with the company like they can't keep people and they say they don't know why(they do or they're idiots).
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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to DUMAS WALKER on Wed May 15 06:14:00 2024
    Quoting Dumas Walker to Tiny <=-

    If they schedule anyhing mandatory outside of my working hours, I am charging them for it.

    Me too.

    I do also but, even when I am working somewhere that I like, what I
    said above holds true. ;)

    Been a loooong time since I liked a place I worked. LOL Even when I was
    self employeed (As I was for pretty much my entire working life) I hated
    it. LOL

    Shawn

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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed May 15 06:16:00 2024
    Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Tiny <=-

    said "Why would you write down the hours!?"
    I'm dying to hear what your response was...

    I didn't really answer. We kind of looked at each other for a long few
    seconds and he walked away.

    Shawn

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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed May 15 06:17:00 2024
    Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Tiny <=-

    As my long-time co-sysop used to say "The company is not your friend."

    I said that to a co worker the other week. She came in "Hello Friends!", I said "We're not friends, we're co workers." she first got upset with me
    but a few hours later (my desk is by the coffee machine so I get to talk
    to everyone, super happy about that) she comes back and realized I wasn't
    being mean.

    They also stopped asking me to go out with them after I explained to them
    I don't drink anymore, and even if I did I spend 40+ hours with these people and have no desire to see them for one second if I'm not being paid.

    Shawn

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed May 15 09:40:00 2024
    I don't remember there ever being a fear of that back in those days. Player
    got out of the way when people were throwing, points were scored, and fun
    as
    had.

    That would be my guess also, and I feel fairly confident in it. ;)

    Sigh. I remember common sense, too.

    A couple of years back, someone tried to convince me that "common sense" is
    a non-existent thing. Now that I think back about it, for his generation, maybe he was right and it really does not exist.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tiny on Wed May 15 13:39:25 2024
    Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: Tiny to DUMAS WALKER on Wed May 15 2024 06:14 am


    Been a loooong time since I liked a place I worked. LOL Even when I was self employeed (As I was for pretty much my entire working life) I hated
    it. LOL



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tiny on Wed May 15 13:46:01 2024
    Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: Tiny to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed May 15 2024 06:17 am

    Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Tiny <=-

    As my long-time co-sysop used to say "The company is not your friend."

    I said that to a co worker the other week. She came in "Hello Friends!", I said "We're not friends, we're co workers." she first got upset with me
    but a few hours later (my desk is by the coffee machine so I get to talk
    to everyone, super happy about that) she comes back and realized I wasn't being mean.

    They also stopped asking me to go out with them after I explained to them
    I don't drink anymore, and even if I did I spend 40+ hours with these people and have no desire to see them for one second if I'm not being paid.

    Shawn

    there's work buddies and real friends. after leaving my job of 17+ years i talk to one dude on facebook SOMETIMES. i thought those people were my friends and i did things for them, loaned them money, drove them to get their vehicles at the shop... i even shoveled their snow in a blizzard. they werent my friends.

    i'm not going to hang out with people outside of work ever again. that just seems weird to me now. fake ass people who build alliances in the workplace do that.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Wed May 15 13:49:58 2024
    Re: Re: Cornhole
    By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wed May 15 2024 09:40 am

    A couple of years back, someone tried to convince me that "common sense" is a non-existent thing. Now that I think back about it, for his generation, maybe he was right and it really does not exist.


    we really are walking amongst npcs and the mentally ill. there's a big percentage that can't find their own genetalia on a diagram. these are brain dead people that do weird things when they're not being watched.

    i had a coworker who would walk to my suv and push in my drivers side mirror. i didn't work closely with him and never talked to him and never had a problem.
    I got sick of it and i stopped leaving work late and caught him in the act. he saw me catching him and he never did it again. when i was watching him it was the weirdest thing. it's like the lights were on but nobody was home.

    there's sick people, barely functional people and a ton of pedophiles out there.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Wed May 15 12:51:44 2024
    Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: MRO to Tiny on Wed May 15 2024 01:46 pm

    there's work buddies and real friends. after leaving my job of 17+ years i talk to one dude on facebook SOMETIMES. i thought those people were my friends and i did things for them, loaned them money, drove them to get their vehicles at the shop... i even shoveled their snow in a blizzard. they werent my friends.

    i'm not going to hang out with people outside of work ever again. that just seems weird to me now. fake ass people who build alliances in the workplace do that.

    It sounds like you've had generally bad experiences with co-workers that way and haven't met anyone at work you really clicked with. There are a few people I've hung out with outside of work and still do (or would) every so often.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wed May 15 18:07:40 2024
    Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed May 15 2024 12:51 pm

    just seems weird to me now. fake ass people who build alliances in the workplace do that.

    It sounds like you've had generally bad experiences with co-workers that

    way
    and haven't met anyone at work you really clicked with.

    that's manufacturing for you. i had people that were my friends.
    now that i dont work there, we aren't friends anymore.

    right now i'm all about working at work and i'm not looking ot 'click' with anybody.

    you can say i've generally had bad experiences with co-workers, but that's probably because i've been around the block. i've been working 30 years and i've hired and fired people. i have literally seen it all except on the job murder sprees.

    There are a few
    people I've hung out with outside of work and still do (or would) every so often.

    yeah i have a few friends. but like i said i'm too busy working.
    build back better.

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  • From Bf2k+@VERT/TACOPRON to Nightfox on Wed May 15 16:31:23 2024
    Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed May 15 2024 12:51 pm

    At my last company, where I worked for 30 years, three of my co-workers and I formed a band and went thru a few bass players before we found one that stuck. And we played together for over 30 years. It was the time of my life... playing with my friends. Although we haven't played a gig since 2018, we're still together playing from time to time.

    I think we stayed together so long because we were friends having fun. It was the first band I ever played in where the primary focus was not replacing the weakest link. We had a ball together... pretending to be rockstars.

    I'd have to say that was my primary co-worker experience...

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Wed May 15 06:41:00 2024
    Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    And layoffs seem to be fairly common with tech companies. I've
    personally been through several layoffs.. I feel like I just want to watch out for myself and what I need as far as employment and
    compensation goes. Companies certainly seem to mainly care about themselves and won't be afraid to let people go when they deem it necessary.

    With cyclical product cycles, some bit of ebb and flow makes sense. One
    of my sysop friends in the '90s worked for Yahoo! in QA. He was an
    employee, not a contractor, and was laid off. Right after his severance
    ended, he was looking for a job and found one, at Yahoo! in his old
    department. Worked there again, was laid off with severance, and went
    back to work once more as a contractor.

    The '90s were strange times in the valley.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Wed May 15 07:00:00 2024
    Dumas Walker wrote to TINY <=-

    If they schedule anyhing mandatory outside of my working hours, I am charging them for it.

    I had a friend (working as an hourly contractor) who used to go to
    lunch meetings (considered unpaid time) and charge them for his time;
    he'd take a lunch later. Lunch was personal time for him, and
    sacrosanct.

    I worked for a company that had union technicians, and trying to
    schedule a working lunch caused an amazing amount of consternation. If
    I brought food in, it was considered unfair to those who didn't want to
    attend, unless it was mandatory, in which case it was to be paid
    time, and I was discouraged from management from bringing in lunch...
    I gave up.

    Mind you, as management, I was in a union-negotiated position (although
    I wasn't union) and part of my benefits package was a stipend for
    "department meals and entertainment".


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Tiny on Wed May 15 07:01:00 2024
    Tiny wrote to DUMAS WALKER <=-

    Been a loooong time since I liked a place I worked. LOL Even when I
    was self employeed (As I was for pretty much my entire working life) I hated it. LOL

    I was self-employed back in the early 2000s. The boss was a
    sanctimonious prick.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Tiny on Wed May 15 07:01:00 2024
    Tiny wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-

    I said that to a co worker the other week. She came in "Hello
    Friends!", I said "We're not friends, we're co workers." she first got upset with me but a few hours later (my desk is by the coffee machine
    so I get to talk to everyone, super happy about that) she comes back
    and realized I wasn't being mean.

    I passed up an anniversary at my current employer, and Linkedin does
    this thing where it lets your network know. I was intrigued by the
    people that bothered to click on a button to respond with a message of congratulations.

    The people who've asked me for references in the past didn't bother.
    Two people I'd interacted with outside of my department close to a
    decade ago sent a message. A personal friend sent a message as well.

    It makes you wonder - you're in some people's minds as long as you're in
    plain sight.



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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Tiny on Wed May 15 21:24:00 2024
    Hello Tiny!

    ** On Wednesday 15.05.24 - 06:16, Tiny wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN:

    said "Why would you write down the hours!?"
    I'm dying to hear what your response was...

    I didn't really answer. We kind of looked at each other for a long few seconds and he walked away.

    BUT, you were satisfactorily paid for those extra hours?


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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to MRO on Thu May 16 06:08:00 2024
    Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

    i'm not going to hang out with people outside of work ever again.
    that just seems weird to me now. fake ass people who build alliances
    in the workplace do that.

    This is pretty much how I feel about it. Besides when I leave the office
    I don't want to hang out and talk about it. lol

    Shawn

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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to OGG on Thu May 16 06:16:00 2024
    Quoting Ogg to Tiny <=-

    I didn't really answer. We kind of looked at each other for a long few seconds and he walked away.
    BUT, you were satisfactorily paid for those extra hours?

    I was yes. They've never /not/ paid me for time I've asked for. So at
    least I have that going for me.

    Shawn

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  • From Mary4@VERT/ANDUIN to MRO on Sat May 11 17:39:00 2024
    RE: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
    BY: MRO to all on Wed May 08 2024 11:59:00

    now you guys are taking my transgender day topic into the world
    of cornholing.

    it was only a matter of time and not surprised by the contributers.
    i am actually a transwoman xD i find it funny how the topic whent to cornholing xD


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu May 16 09:50:17 2024
    Re: Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Wed May 15 2024 06:41 am

    With cyclical product cycles, some bit of ebb and flow makes sense. One of my sysop friends in the '90s worked for Yahoo! in QA. He was an employee, not a contractor, and was laid off. Right after his severance ended, he was looking for a job and found one, at Yahoo! in his old department. Worked there again, was laid off with severance, and went back to work once more as a contractor.

    The '90s were strange times in the valley.

    It is strange sometimes.. Right now I'm working as a contractor, but I started here because the manager said it would be a contract-to-hire position, and he did want to hire me eventually. Now, that manager is moving to another team in the company, and there's about 6 months left in my contract. The manager put in a recommendation for me, and I hope the next manager does decide to hire me..

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu May 16 10:02:03 2024
    Re: Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tiny on Wed May 15 2024 07:01 am

    I passed up an anniversary at my current employer, and Linkedin does this thing where it lets your network know. I was intrigued by the people that bothered to click on a button to respond with a message of congratulations.

    The people who've asked me for references in the past didn't bother. Two people I'd interacted with outside of my department close to a decade ago sent a message. A personal friend sent a message as well.

    It makes you wonder - you're in some people's minds as long as you're in plain sight.

    Yeah, sometimes it feels like you're out of sight and out of mind to other people. Though for something like a work anniversary, some people might not know it's a work anniversary for you unless something like LinkedIn mentions it.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tiny on Thu May 16 17:21:12 2024
    Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: Tiny to OGG on Thu May 16 2024 06:16 am

    Quoting Ogg to Tiny <=-

    I didn't really answer. We kind of looked at each other for a long few seconds and he walked away.
    BUT, you were satisfactorily paid for those extra hours?

    I was yes. They've never /not/ paid me for time I've asked for. So at least I have that going for me.

    Shawn


    well it's illegal for them to expect you to work and not get paid for it, right?
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thu May 16 17:22:31 2024
    Re: Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu May 16 2024 09:50 am

    It is strange sometimes.. Right now I'm working as a contractor, but I started here because the manager said it would be a contract-to-hire position, and he did want to hire me eventually. Now, that manager is moving to another team in the company, and there's about 6 months left in my contract. The manager put in a recommendation for me, and I hope the next manager does decide to hire me..


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thu May 16 17:23:44 2024
    Re: Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu May 16 2024 10:02 am

    decade ago sent a message. A personal friend sent a message as well.

    It makes you wonder - you're in some people's minds as long as you're in plain sight.

    Yeah, sometimes it feels like you're out of sight and out of mind to other people. Though for something like a work anniversary, some people might not know it's a work anniversary for you unless something like LinkedIn mentions it.



    honestly i think it's weird to expect someone to react to a linkedin notice
    and congradulate you on a work anniversary. what would that do for someone, anyways?
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  • From Mickey@VERT/CORSYNC to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu May 16 21:54:05 2024
    Re: Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tiny on Wed May 15 2024 07:01:00


    .
    Mick Manning
    Central Ontario Remote | centralontarioremote.net:23

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  • From Mickey@VERT/CORSYNC to Mary4 on Thu May 16 21:55:40 2024
    Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
    By: Mary4 to MRO on Sat May 11 2024 17:39:00

    i am actually a transwoman xD i find it funny how the topic whent to cornholing xD

    Mary4 is a transwoman now? sigh


    .
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MICKEY on Fri May 17 10:00:00 2024
    i am actually a transwoman xD i find it funny how the topic whent to cornholing xD

    Mary4 is a transwoman now? sigh

    Now? I think Mary4 was pretty open about being trans when Mary4 first
    started posting (although it may have been under a different name).

    He/she/they have not been preachy about their identiy so I don't see much
    to be bothered about.


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  • From Nopants@VERT/CITBBS to Mickey on Fri May 17 10:32:00 2024
    Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
    By: Mickey to Mary4 on Thu May 16 2024 10:55 pm

    i am actually a transwoman xD i find it funny how the topic whent to cornholing xD

    Mary4 is a transwoman now? sigh

    Happy Easter Mary4!

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  • From Jas Hud@VERT to Mickey on Fri May 17 13:19:31 2024
    Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
    By: Mickey to Mary4 on Thu May 16 2024 09:55 pm

    Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
    By: Mary4 to MRO on Sat May 11 2024 17:39:00

    i am actually a transwoman xD i find it funny how the topic whent to
    cornholing xD

    Mary4 is a transwoman now? sigh


    that dude posted under so many accounts on that bbs. i just blocked him.
    i think the sysop of that bbs has multiple personalities.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Fri May 17 13:11:07 2024
    Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
    By: Dumas Walker to MICKEY on Fri May 17 2024 10:00 am

    i am actually a transwoman xD i find it funny how the topic whent to
    cornholing xD

    Mary4 is a transwoman now? sigh

    Now? I think Mary4 was pretty open about being trans when Mary4 first started posting (although it may have been under a different name).

    Z was going to say the same thing.. She made an introductory post on FSX-Net several weeks ago where she mentioned she's a trans woman.

    Nightfox

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  • From phigan@VERT/TACOPRON to Dumas Walker on Fri May 17 14:08:23 2024
    Re: Cornhole
    By: Dumas Walker to GAMGEE on Wed May 08 2024 09:19 am

    Not sure where you live, but it certainly isn't in the SouthEastern USA.

    Indeed and, if they do, they've certainly never been tailgating at a college football game. ;)

    SouthWestern.. and like I said, came and went. The bars still have the holes and the bags, but nobody really plays with them anymore.
    Don't expect it to be popular forever :)

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to phigan on Fri May 17 17:51:00 2024
    phigan wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    Re: Cornhole
    By: Dumas Walker to GAMGEE on Wed May 08 2024 09:19 am

    Not sure where you live, but it certainly isn't in the SouthEastern USA.

    Indeed and, if they do, they've certainly never been tailgating at a college football game. ;)

    SouthWestern.. and like I said, came and went. The bars still
    have the holes and the bags, but nobody really plays with them
    anymore. Don't expect it to be popular forever :)

    I don't know about the SouthWest. But I can assure you that here in the SouthEast, it's hasn't "went". It's hugely popular in many different settings.

    Did you know about this: https://www.iplaycornhole.com/

    And this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Cornhole_League

    People will fight you over this sport down here. :-)



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Gamgee on Fri May 17 17:26:51 2024
    Re: Re: Cornhole
    By: Gamgee to phigan on Fri May 17 2024 05:51 pm

    And this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Cornhole_League

    People will fight you over this sport down here. :-)

    It's considered a sport? I always thought it was mainly considered a game, in the same way that darts is a game (at least, I've never heard of darts as a sport).

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Nightfox on Fri May 17 20:24:34 2024
    On Fri, 17 May 2024 22:26:50 -0700, you wrote:

    It's considered a sport? I always thought it was mainly considered a
    game, in the same way that darts is a game (at least, I've never heard
    of darts as a sport).

    I think it's safe to say if there's sanctioned competitions and championships and abbreviated corporations supporting them, it's a sport. Cornhole has them, darts has them, as does bowling, and even slapping now. :)

    Regards,
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Nightfox on Fri May 17 21:11:00 2024
    Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: Cornhole
    By: Gamgee to phigan on Fri May 17 2024 05:51 pm

    And this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Cornhole_League

    People will fight you over this sport down here. :-)

    It's considered a sport? I always thought it was mainly
    considered a game, in the same way that darts is a game (at
    least, I've never heard of darts as a sport).

    Well, I think it would be called that. There's a professional league for
    it, so... Kind of a word game, really. Is pro baseball a "game" or a "sport". I'd say it's both. Same for football, basketball, etc...



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Accession on Fri May 17 20:24:13 2024
    Re: Cornhole
    By: Accession to Nightfox on Fri May 17 2024 08:24 pm

    It's considered a sport? I always thought it was mainly considered a
    game, in the same way that darts is a game (at least, I've never heard of
    darts as a sport).

    I think it's safe to say if there's sanctioned competitions and championships and abbreviated corporations supporting them, it's a sport. Cornhole has them, darts has them, as does bowling, and even slapping now. :)

    Ah, I didn't know darts had competitions and championchips. :)

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to MRO on Sat May 18 10:22:22 2024
    Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: MRO to Tiny on Wed May 15 2024 01:46 pm

    there's work buddies and real friends. after leaving my job of 17+ years i talk to one dude on facebook SOMETIMES. i thought those people were my friends and i did things for them, loaned them money, drove them to get their vehicles at the shop... i even shoveled their snow in a blizzard.
    they werent my friends.

    That's pretty similar to school and college. I once was told that places people are expected to spend a lot of time in with the same set of other people build friendships out of the circumpstances. That is bullshit. They build **alliances**. Alliances are a legitimate arrangement that has its uses, but I can count the number of times one of my alliances has survived past the environment that originated it with the fingers of a horse.

    It seems the most solid alliances that can actually turn into friendships are the ones formed in social hardships, such as when the three ugly nerds everybody else in the classroom rejects band together, not because they like each other, but because they have nobody else to cover their backs.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to Nightfox on Sat May 18 10:27:26 2024
    Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed May 15 2024 12:51 pm

    It sounds like you've had generally bad experiences with co-workers that way and haven't met anyone at work you really clicked with. There are a few people I've hung out with outside of work and still do (or would) every so often.


    I can't talk about MRO, but my observation is most people who has a good relationship with their coworkers have a business only relationship that ends as soon as they punch the clock on their way out.

    Lots of people I clicked with in socally constrained environments (work, college) didn't bother to keep in touch at all when either them or myself moved out of that environment. They would not even respond to messages.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sat May 18 15:11:37 2024
    Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Sat May 18 2024 10:27 am


    I can't talk about MRO, but my observation is most people who has a good relationship with their coworkers have a business only relationship that ends as soon as they punch the clock on their way out.

    Lots of people I clicked with in socally constrained environments (work, college) didn't bother to keep in touch at all when either them or myself moved out of that environment. They would not even respond to messages.
    --

    well i went out to bars with them and i helped them run errands.
    only one guy out of many helped me out one time getting my car from the dealership which was like minutes away.

    i think the world is just full of fake people.
    I'm a real person and I'm a giver and a good friend. Givers attracts takers, though.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Arelor on Sat May 18 16:02:38 2024
    Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Sat May 18 2024 10:27 am

    I can't talk about MRO, but my observation is most people who has a good relationship with their coworkers have a business only relationship that ends as soon as they punch the clock on their way out.

    Lots of people I clicked with in socally constrained environments (work, college) didn't bother to keep in touch at all when either them or myself moved out of that environment. They would not even respond to messages.

    It always seemed to me that msot of the people who become your friends are people you meet in socially constrained environments, such as college, work, etc.. People tend to spend a lot of their time in those kinds of situations, and you naturally meet people in those situations who can become your friends. Many of my friends are people I met in school growing up, college, some in work, etc.. Yeah, there are many who might not bother to keep in touch when you or they leave, but I guess you wouldn't really consider those people good friends..

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to PHIGAN on Sat May 18 13:59:00 2024
    Not sure where you live, but it certainly isn't in the SouthEastern USA.

    Indeed and, if they do, they've certainly never been tailgating at a colleg
    football game. ;)

    SouthWestern.. and like I said, came and went. The bars still have the holes and the bags, but nobody really plays with them anymore.
    Don't expect it to be popular forever :)

    I am not a player and didn't enjoy it much the couple of times I tried it.
    As stated, it is (one of) the official games of Kentucky, popular or not,
    but it does still seem to be pretty popular here.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Sat May 18 18:10:00 2024
    Arelor wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I can't talk about MRO, but my observation is most people who has a
    good relationship with their coworkers have a business only
    relationship that ends as soon as they punch the clock on their way
    out.

    But you miss out on one of those workplaces when you're in your 20s when everyone's dating someone in the office, and all of the drama that goes
    along with it... Good times, when you don't know any better. :)




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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Mon May 20 09:22:00 2024
    But you miss out on one of those workplaces when you're in your 20s when everyone's dating someone in the office, and all of the drama that goes
    along with it... Good times, when you don't know any better. :)

    Most of the places I worked in my 20s, nearly all of the employees were
    either male, married, or > 55 years old (or some combination). I don't
    miss those places that much.


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  • From Mickey@VERT/CORSYNC to Dumas Walker on Mon May 20 19:56:55 2024
    Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
    By: Dumas Walker to MICKEY on Fri May 17 2024 10:00:00

    * SLMR 2.1a * Do unto others BEFORE they do unto YOU.

    That's about it I suppose. I always thought she/him/they/something was a bot anyway so wasen't paying much attention. :-)


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  • From Mickey@VERT/CORSYNC to Jas Hud on Mon May 20 19:59:30 2024
    Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
    By: Jas Hud to Mickey on Fri May 17 2024 13:19:31

    i am actually a transwoman xD i find it funny how the topic whent to
    cornholing xD

    Mary4 is a transwoman now? sigh


    Indeed.

    -+-


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Mickey on Mon May 20 21:45:08 2024
    Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
    By: Mickey to Jas Hud on Mon May 20 2024 07:59 pm

    Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
    By: Jas Hud to Mickey on Fri May 17 2024 13:19:31

    i am actually a transwoman xD i find it funny how the topic whent to
    cornholing xD

    Mary4 is a transwoman now? sigh


    Indeed.

    why are you replying to me. i didn't post that stuff.
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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT/NITEEYES to Nightfox on Wed May 22 03:44:59 2024
    Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed May 15 2024 12:51 pm

    It sounds like you've had generally bad experiences with co-workers that way and haven't met anyone at work you really clicked with. There are a few people I've hung out with outside of work and still do (or would) every so often.

    Yeah I have life long friends that I met through work. People I talk to at least on a weekly basis that I haven't worked with in years.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed May 22 11:03:40 2024
    Re: Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Sat May 18 2024 06:10 pm

    But you miss out on one of those workplaces when you're in your 20s when everyone's dating someone in the office, and all of the drama that goes along with it... Good times, when you don't know any better. :)


    That sounds awfully awful.

    One should leave the job at the office unless there is extra pay to justify taking it home.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to The Lizard Master on Wed May 22 15:55:51 2024
    Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: The Lizard Master to Nightfox on Wed May 22 2024 03:44 am

    Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed May 15 2024 12:51 pm

    It sounds like you've had generally bad experiences with co-workers that way and haven't met anyone at work you really clicked with. There are a few people I've hung out with outside of work and still do (or would) every so often.

    Yeah I have life long friends that I met through work. People I talk to at least on a weekly basis that I haven't worked with in years.


    i have that with part time jobs.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Wed May 22 15:56:18 2024
    Re: Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed May 22 2024 11:03 am

    Re: Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Sat May 18 2024 06:10 pm

    But you miss out on one of those workplaces when you're in your 20s when everyone's dating someone in the office, and all of the drama that goes along with it... Good times, when you don't know any better. :)


    That sounds awfully awful.

    One should leave the job at the office unless there is extra pay to justify taking it home.


    yeah that sounds like a shit show. you should never date at work.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Thu May 23 06:44:00 2024
    Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    One should leave the job at the office unless there is extra pay to justify taking it home.

    I hope people are getting wise to the startup grind. If you're all
    working for equity in the company, working enough hours that it limits
    your social and personal life isn't worth it.

    If you're making a paycheck and they're still focusing on the startup
    grind, they're doing it to maximize your work hours.

    But, hey, they do Uber Eats for employees who work after 7pm...



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu May 23 10:03:39 2024
    Re: Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Thu May 23 2024 06:44 am

    I hope people are getting wise to the startup grind. If you're all working for equity in the company, working enough hours that it limits your social and personal life isn't worth it.

    My first software developer job was at a small startup, and I was the first person the owner hired. I actually thought it was a generally fun job. After I was there about 4 years though, he decided to close his company and go out of business because he wasn't getting enough business and wasn't bringing in enough income.

    And I actually didn't work many long hours, though the owner seemed to work pretty much all the time.. When I started, he asked if I wanted to be salaried or hourly, and I said hourly (at the time, it was mainly due to being used to hourly at my previous job, which was a fast food job). The hourly pay allowed me to be subject to overtime, and he said he wanted to avoid that, so I was able to go home once I hit 40 hours. Some days I worked late, which meant on Friday I'd go home early.

    Nightfox

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon May 27 13:48:43 2024
    Re: Re: Unlimited PTO
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Thu May 23 2024 06:44 am

    I hope people are getting wise to the startup grind. If you're all
    working for equity in the company, working enough hours that it limits
    your social and personal life isn't worth it.

    If you're making a paycheck and they're still focusing on the startup
    grind, they're doing it to maximize your work hours.

    But, hey, they do Uber Eats for employees who work after 7pm...



    To be honest, one should take advantage of the years in which one is young and able-bodied to work hard and make money, so then he can relax in his mid 40s when he goes fat and his joints rust :-)

    Social life is overhyped. If I could do more extra hours I would take them.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPTEST to ARELOR on Tue May 28 10:04:00 2024
    Social life is overhyped. If I could do more extra hours I would take them.

    Looking back at the places that paid OT vs. comp time, I think I would,
    too, even though I did not like those places that much.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Tue May 28 07:16:00 2024
    Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    To be honest, one should take advantage of the years in which one is
    young and able-bodied to work hard and make money, so then he can relax
    in his mid 40s when he goes fat and his joints rust :-)

    Career building is jump-started by those years - being in before the
    boss, out after he leaves, networking with people inside and outside
    your company, and performing.

    I like working remotely, but if I were in my 20s, I'd insist on working
    in the office in order to make those connections. Whether or not the
    company states it, no remote worker will get promoted moving forward.
    Hell, Dell already said the quiet part out loud.


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  • From Skylar@VERT to Weatherman on Tue Jun 4 18:07:16 2024
    Re: Re: Programming
    By: Weatherman to Skylar on Sun Apr 21 2024 02:09 am

    The instructor was more difficult to get along with than the language.

    I had that experience more than once. Actually, with most of my Computer Science instructors. :(

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  • From Skylar@VERT to Dr. What on Tue Jun 4 18:11:21 2024
    Re: Re: HAPPY TRANSGENDER DAY
    By: Dr. What to Skylar on Mon Apr 22 2024 07:28 am

    Once I got to my "higher level" CS cources, we moved to C - but we were
    also doing compiler and operating system construction at that level.

    There are compilers and operating systems written in Pascal. Granted, more compilers than operating systems.

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  • From Skylar@VERT to MIKE POWELL on Tue Jun 4 18:16:07 2024
    Re: Re: Programming
    By: MIKE POWELL to SKYLAR on Mon Apr 22 2024 09:10 am

    Although one of my all-time favorite BBS experiences was a BBS written in Fortran.

    Which BBS software was that?

    UBBS, or University of Arkansas at Little Rock BBS.

    http://www.bbsdocumentary.com/software/VAX/VMS/UBBS/www.decuslib.com/decus/vax89a3/ualr/bbs/aaareadme.1st

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to SKYLAR on Wed Jun 5 08:43:00 2024
    Although one of my all-time favorite BBS experiences was a BBS written in Fortran.

    Which BBS software was that?

    UBBS, or University of Arkansas at Little Rock BBS.

    http://www.bbsdocumentary.com/software/VAX/VMS/UBBS/www.decuslib.com/decus/vax
    9a3/ualr/bbs/aaareadme.1st

    Thanks, I will have to check that out!


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