• KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"

    From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Andrew From Orel on Wed Jul 7 08:50:39 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Andrew From Orel to All on Wed Jun 23 2021 01:13 pm

    Several days ago I've seen one video at YouTube about ICQ revival project called KICQ. Some enthusiasts use their servers for connection by OSCAR protocol. So, if you have an old gadget which doesn't support New ICQ by Mail.ru, you can register new UIN at their server (195.66.114.37:5190) and log in using old clients like ICQ 2003, QIP 2005 etc.

    After watching that video I decided to try it out. I installed ICQ 2003b on my WinXP virtual machine as it described at manual (http://narodweb.ru/kicq.html) and registration was easy. Later I installed old Kopete from KDE3 on my Raspberry Pi 2 and successfully logged in.

    I miss the old ICQ as it was in its heyday. One feature I think they removed in newer versions was the user profile and random user search feature. I had contacts around the world on there I used to chat with.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Wed Jul 7 08:54:05 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: MRO to Andrew From Orel on Thu Jun 24 2021 08:25 am

    nobody uses instant msging anymore.

    I wonder why that is. It seems to me there isn't a totally suitable replacement for internet messengers. Sure, you can text people on your phone, but you need their phone number (which people might not be willing to share all the time), and if you want to message people in other countries that way, your carrier might charge extra fees for international texting (or you might not be able to text internationally at all). There are apps like WhatsApp, that let you text people around the world for free, but you'd still be sharing your phone number (which you might not want to do).

    One thing that was unique to ICQ years ago was its user profile and random user search feature. Years ago, I found people to talk to all over the world that way, and I thought that was pretty cool.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Wed Jul 7 18:11:22 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Jul 07 2021 08:54 am

    nobody uses instant msging anymore.

    I wonder why that is.

    I'm somebody and I still use instant messaging - mainly Facebook's, to communicate with family members. That and iMessage. <shrug>
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wed Jul 7 22:05:22 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Jul 07 2021 08:54 am

    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: MRO to Andrew From Orel on Thu Jun 24 2021 08:25 am

    nobody uses instant msging anymore.

    I wonder why that is. It seems to me there isn't a totally suitable replacement for internet messengers. Sure, you can text people on your phone, but you need their phone number (which people might not be willing to share all the time), and if you want to message people in other countries that way, your carrier might charge extra fees for international texting (or you might not be able to text internationally at all). There are apps like WhatsApp, that let you text people around the world for free, but you'd still be sharing your phone number (which you might not want to do).

    One thing that was unique to ICQ years ago was its user profile and random user search feature. Years ago, I found people to talk to all over the world that way, and I thought that was pretty cool.


    maybe because people dont want to be instantly available, or they like to communicate like they do via snapchat and instagram and facebook.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Wed Jul 7 22:07:43 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Jul 07 2021 06:11 pm

    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Jul 07 2021 08:54 am

    nobody uses instant msging anymore.

    I wonder why that is.

    I'm somebody and I still use instant messaging - mainly Facebook's, to communicate with family members. That and iMessage. <shrug>
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    it's not like aim or yahoo msger or msn, though. it's an additional feature on a social media site.
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to MRO on Wed Jul 7 21:18:51 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Jul 07 2021 10:07 pm

    I'm somebody and I still use instant messaging - mainly Facebook's, to communicate with family members. That and iMessage. <shrug>

    it's not like aim or yahoo msger or msn, though. it's an additional feature on a social media site.

    On my phone (or tablet) anyway, Facebook Messager is its own separate app (separate from the Facebook app). Still, I can only message Facebook members with it, but its similar to MSN or AIM in that regard. I don't see it as being different much at all.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Digital Man on Thu Jul 8 09:16:09 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Wed Jul 07 2021 09:18 pm

    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Jul 07 2021 10:07 pm

    I'm somebody and I still use instant messaging - mainly Facebook's, to communicate with family members. That and iMessage. <shrug>

    it's not like aim or yahoo msger or msn, though. it's an additional feature on a social media site.

    On my phone (or tablet) anyway, Facebook Messager is its own separate app (separate from the Facebook app). Still, I can only message Facebook members with it, but its similar to MSN or AIM in that regard. I don't see it as being different much at all.
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    yeah i know they needlessly made it into a seperate bloated app. it just seems different to me, probably in the way we used it. i dont think of fb msger the same way as yahoo msger, aim, etc. i dont have fb msger loaded on my desktop computer and i dont use it to communicate with people when there's other methods out there.

    i think fb msger is just another way for fb to spy on us, i dont think it should be someone's go to app for online communication.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Thu Jul 8 09:53:33 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Jul 07 2021 06:11 pm

    nobody uses instant msging anymore.

    I wonder why that is.

    I'm somebody and I still use instant messaging - mainly Facebook's, to communicate with family members. That and iMessage. <shrug> --

    I do too; I use Facebook's messenger to keep in touch with some family & friends. I think the nice thing about apps like that is they're available for both PC and mobile devices.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Thu Jul 8 09:55:28 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Jul 07 2021 10:05 pm

    nobody uses instant msging anymore.

    I wonder why that is. It seems to me there isn't a totally suitable

    maybe because people dont want to be instantly available, or they like to communicate like they do via snapchat and instagram and facebook.

    You don't have to always be available to chat with those. I'd always sign out of the messengers when I wasn't available, and the messengers typically show your online/offline status.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Thu Jul 8 13:53:45 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Digital Man to MRO on Wed Jul 07 2021 09:18 pm

    On my phone (or tablet) anyway, Facebook Messager is its own separate app (separate from the Facebook app). Still, I can only message Facebook members with it, but its similar to MSN or AIM in that regard. I don't see it as being different much at all. --

    I thought I had read a while ago that Facebook's Messenger app had become a more general messenger app and you could use it to message your phone contacts. I seem to remember it asking me for permission one time to access my phone contacts.

    Originally I wondered why Facebook decided to make their messenger a separate app. It used to be that their mobile app allowed messaging other Facebook users directly from the app, but now it forces you to use their separate Messenger app. For that reason, I generally have been in the habit of using Facebook's web site (rather than their dedicated app) even on my smartphone.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thu Jul 8 22:09:41 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Jul 08 2021 01:53 pm

    I thought I had read a while ago that Facebook's Messenger app had become a more general messenger app and you could use it to message your phone contacts. I seem to remember it asking me for permission one time to access my phone contacts.

    to get your info and read your msgs

    Originally I wondered why Facebook decided to make their messenger a separate app. It used to be that their mobile app allowed messaging other Facebook users directly from the app, but now it forces you to use their separate Messenger app. For that reason, I generally have been in the habit of using Facebook's web site (rather than their dedicated app) even on my smartphone.


    to get your info and read your msgs
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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Digital Man on Fri Jul 9 12:55:31 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Jul 07 2021 06:11 pm

    nobody uses instant msging anymore.

    I wonder why that is.

    I'm somebody and I still use instant messaging - mainly Facebook's, to communicate with family members. That and iMessage. <shrug> --

    Yep, I use messenger and Skype for the most part.

    Discord and Slack, while not technically instant messengers, also get heavily used.


    It's nice being a "nobody".

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DaiTengu on Sat Jul 10 07:57:37 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: DaiTengu to Digital Man on Fri Jul 09 2021 12:55 pm

    Yep, I use messenger and Skype for the most part.

    Discord and Slack, while not technically instant messengers, also get heavily used.


    It's nice being a "nobody".


    you probably just use those those things to spite me.

    so why do you use 5 different things? why not use email, sms or just use one? ---
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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Nightfox on Sun Jul 11 13:01:19 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Jul 08 2021 09:55 am

    nobody uses instant msging anymore.

    I wonder why that is. It seems to me there isn't a totally suitable

    maybe because people dont want to be instantly available, or they like to communicate like they do via snapchat and instagram and facebook.

    You don't have to always be available to chat with those. I'd always sign out of the messengers when I wasn't available, and the messengers typically show your online/offline status.

    Nightfox

    I do remember that you could still message people on MSN when they were offline and they'd see the messages pop-up whenever they logged on. I can't say I am 100% sure though because it was a very long time ago... perhaps it's just my imperfect recall.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to MRO on Mon Jul 12 15:05:38 2021
    Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: MRO to DaiTengu on Sat Jul 10 2021 07:57 am

    Discord and Slack, while not technically instant messengers, also get
    heavily used.

    It's nice being a "nobody".

    so why do you use 5 different things? why not use email, sms or just use one? ---

    Facebook Messenger for my family. Skype I use for both work, and my weekly gaming group meets on it (as we game online, since we're spread all throughout the US). The work stuff is really just a small group of people (myself and two others) in a skype channel we created about 8 years ago.

    Discord, for the most part, has replaced IRC for me. I'm in a lot of disparate groups/servers there.

    Slack is for work. It's how the entire company communicates with each other, since everyone is spread out all over the world.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Tracker1@tracker1@roughneckbbs.com to MRO on Mon Jul 19 22:53:34 2021
    On 7/7/2021 8:07 PM, MRO wrote:

    it's not like aim or yahoo msger or msn, though. it's
    an additional feature on a social media site.

    Aim and yahoo messengers were an additional feature for social media
    sites. ;-) I think the rise and fall of XMPP had a lot to do with it,
    we were all heading towards interoperability, while the masses were
    going to google and facebook, then google said f-that, and it was over.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Tue Jul 20 09:10:48 2021
    Re: Re: KICQ as an "Old New ICQ"
    By: Tracker1 to MRO on Mon Jul 19 2021 10:53 pm

    On 7/7/2021 8:07 PM, MRO wrote:

    it's not like aim or yahoo msger or msn, though. it's
    an additional feature on a social media site.

    Aim and yahoo messengers were an additional feature for social media
    sites. ;-) I think the rise and fall of XMPP had a lot to do with it,

    aim and yahoo didnt know what the fuck they were
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