even having a shelving unit. I still have like 100 or so cds without a home and they are still in boxes.


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"Utopian Galt" (21:4/108) <Utopian.Galt@f108.n4.z21.fidonet> wrote:

even having a shelving unit. I still have like 100 or so cds without
a home and they are still in boxes.

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I have about 300-400 in my closet, 8 stacks about 5ft tall in my
hallway, shelves full of CDs and a couple of boxes under the desk. I
really need to get around to cataloging them.
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On 11 Feb 2024, Utopian Galt said the following...

even having a shelving unit. I still have like 100 or so cds without a home and they are still in boxes.

Box by box a slowly rip them onto my media server, then copy TB chunks onto SD drives that store separately.

The original media largely alphabetized in its bulk storage box.

Those bulkers (mostly old printer paper boxes with covers) disappear to long term dry storage.

In unboxing/handling anything that is crummy either goes off for donation or gets recycled.

Certain prized CDs do make it to my stereo area, or if they are physically valuable get stored appropriately.

LPs mostly have gone into long term storage or been donated. Certain select one not otherwise available I will rip to the server, but that is time consuming.

LPs do contain some value in certain cases, so do your research.

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Re: Organizing collections
By: Utopian Galt to All on Sun Feb 11 2024 08:38 am

even having a shelving unit. I still have like 100 or so cds without a home and they are still in boxes.

I also have some CDs packed in boxes from my last move that I haven't opened.. I've actually kept them in those same boxes for years, since I ripped my music library onto my PC (which I use on my media server, smartphone, and a USB flash drive for my car). Some day I might get a shelf for my CDs when I hve more space.

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Hello Nigel Reed!

I have about 300-400 in my closet, 8 stacks about 5ft tall
in my hallway, shelves full of CDs and a couple of boxes
under the desk. I really need to get around to cataloging
them.

So.. still no progress with Discogs? ..or with general
scanning of product barcodes?


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On Monday February 12 2024, Nightfox said the following...

opened.. I've actually kept them in those same boxes for years, since
I ripped my music library onto my PC (which I use on my media server,

What do people use now-a-days to rip audio CDs? I remember back in the day using Audiograbber and thenAudiocatalyst to rip to MP3. And then of course used Winamp to play them.


Jay

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Hello Warpslide!

What do people use now-a-days to rip audio CDs? I remember
back in the day using Audiograbber and thenAudiocatalyst to
rip to MP3. And then of course used Winamp to play them.

I use iTunes. Many import options. For a CD that I might like
to sell or give away, I like AppleLossless (m4a). I use the
AnyAudioConverter to manipulate the "source" to mp3 if
necessary.

I've conducted several comparison tests between .m4a and FLAC
and find the sound is quite identical when burned to CD audio.

For example.. this piece: https://ibb.co/TvYMhCT ..has a
super low-end G organ note. Sounds fantastic on a good hifi
system. Sounds the same if converted to FLAC and burned to CD.
However if the file is converted to 320kbps mp3, it loses its
original impact.


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On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 09:21:00 -0500
"Ogg" (21:4/106.21) <Ogg@p21.f106.n4.z21.fidonet> wrote:

Hello Nigel Reed!

I have about 300-400 in my closet, 8 stacks about 5ft tall
in my hallway, shelves full of CDs and a couple of boxes
under the desk. I really need to get around to cataloging
them.

So.. still no progress with Discogs? ..or with general
scanning of product barcodes?

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Takes time to being them in, stack 'em, go through the bar codes.
Remove stickers from over barcodes, see if they scan, then figure out
which of the many results I want and restack and then remove them
before moving on to the next batch.

So, no. :)
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On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 19:33:12 -0500
"Warpslide" (21:3/110) <Warpslide@f110.n3.z21.fidonet> wrote:

On Monday February 12 2024, Nightfox said the following...

opened.. I've actually kept them in those same boxes for years,
since I ripped my music library onto my PC (which I use on my
media server,

What do people use now-a-days to rip audio CDs? I remember back in
the day using Audiograbber and thenAudiocatalyst to rip to MP3. And
then of course used Winamp to play them.

Jay

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Personally, I just grab them using soulseek. It's actually quicker to
download then to rip them for me. I can be downloading multiple disks
at once rather than ripping each one individually. Of course, quality
varies and the like but overall, it's pretty good.
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What do people use now-a-days to rip audio CDs?

I haven't ripped a CD in ages but I use asunder. It'll rip to wav, mp3, ogg, flac, ape and a couple others I forget now.

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Re: Re: Organizing collections
By: Warpslide to All on Mon Feb 12 2024 07:33 pm

What do people use now-a-days to rip audio CDs? I remember back in the day using Audiograbber and thenAudiocatalyst to rip to MP3. And then of course used Winamp to play them.

I'm usually using Windows, and for ripping CDs, I usually use CDex (and have for many years):
https://cdex.mu/download

Sometimes I use dbPowerAmp (which can rip to both MP3 and FLAC in one step): https://www.dbpoweramp.com/cd-ripper.htm

After using dbPowerAmp a bit, I went back to using CDEx most often. I've found that the official FLAC software tends to produce somewhat smaller FLAC files, so I'll first rip to WAV, then compress to FLAC (for backup), then convert the FLACs to MP3 with FlacSquisher.

I wrote a Python script to convert an album of ripped WAV files to Flac and tag them with metadata as much as possible.

Official FLAC software:
https://xiph.org/flac/download.html

FlacSquisher:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/flacsquisher/

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Re: Organizing collections
By: Ogg to Warpslide on Mon Feb 12 2024 10:05 pm

I use iTunes. Many import options. For a CD that I might like to sell or give away, I like AppleLossless (m4a). I use the AnyAudioConverter to

I don't really like selling or giving away CDs I've ripped when I intend to keep the files.. I like to hold onto the CD so I can say I still "own" the album.

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Re: Re: Organizing collections
By: Warpslide to All on Mon Feb 12 2024 07:33 pm

What do people use now-a-days to rip audio CDs? I remember back in the day

cdparanoia, all the way.

And then the official flan encoder to turn the wav files to flac.

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Hello Nightfox!

I use iTunes. Many import options. For a CD that I
might like to sell or give away, I like AppleLossless
(m4a). I use the AnyAudioConverter to

I don't really like selling or giving away CDs I've ripped
when I intend to keep the files.. I like to hold onto the
CD so I can say I still "own" the album.

Well.. generally, I would "save" a copy long enough until I get
a chance to check it out if someone wanted the original
CD+case. Spotify seems to get most used now anyway.

In the past, I used to copy LPs to cassette and just play the
cassette version with a select mix most of the time. However..
I haven't gotten rid of any of my 1100 LPs yet.

Another reason I use the AppleLossless is because that format
accomodates tags, automatically, with info gleened from CDDB,
and the result is automatically in database format in iTunes.
One step; done.

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Hello Nigel Reed!

Takes time to being them in, stack 'em, go through the bar
codes. Remove stickers from over barcodes, see if they
scan, then figure out which of the many results I want and
restack and then remove them before moving on to the next
batch.

So, no. :)

There's noone you can deligate some of the sorting or de-
stickering to?

Maybe just start with the easy ones that don't have any
stickers blocking the barcodes?

Scan or take a picture of the barcodes with your phone?

I have a similar dilemma. I promised myself that everytime I
touched a CD to play it, I would then register it into Discogs.
That went well for a handful of CDs, but the system fell apart
when I wanted to play a CD *after* the computers were all shut
down for the night and the pile of "to-do" discs was too much
to do later!

The whole process COULD work if I had ample HDD space to rip
each CD before or after I play it. That process would be an
easy way to file the pertinent info automatically. But.. I
don't have the HDD space for the project.

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Re: Organizing collections
By: Ogg to Nigel Reed on Sun Feb 18 2024 11:13:00

There's noone you can deligate some of the sorting or de-
stickering to?

Not really. Come on over, if you like ;)

Maybe just start with the easy ones that don't have any
stickers blocking the barcodes?

Easier said that done. That means more time sorting through, new piles, etc. Still no guarantee the barcode will scan. Depends on the state of the plastic.

I have a similar dilemma. I promised myself that everytime I
touched a CD to play it, I would then register it into Discogs.
That went well for a handful of CDs, but the system fell apart
when I wanted to play a CD *after* the computers were all shut
down for the night and the pile of "to-do" discs was too much
to do later!

I just ripped them while I was working. It's pretty automatic. Obviously not everything I have is ripped.

The whole process COULD work if I had ample HDD space to rip
each CD before or after I play it. That process would be an
easy way to file the pertinent info automatically. But.. I
don't have the HDD space for the project.

Just get yourself a 4TB hard drive or something.

I have almost 50,000 mp3 files on a 3TB partition of which 2.6T is used, 1.5T of that space is used for videos.
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Hello Nigel Reed!

** On Sunday 18.02.24 - 15:26, Nigel Reed wrote to Ogg:

Maybe just start with the easy ones that don't have any
stickers blocking the barcodes?

Easier said that done. That means more time sorting
through, new piles, etc. Still no guarantee the barcode
will scan. Depends on the state of the plastic.

Maybe turn that into a game for a young niece or nephew? "Hey
kids, I need to find all the CDs with the labels and sort
them.."

I have a similar dilemma. I promised myself that everytime I
touched a CD to play it, I would then register it into Discogs. [...]

I just ripped them while I was working. It's pretty
automatic. Obviously not everything I have is ripped.

OK.. then you *do* have a significant database already. Why
can't you use that? I'm still interesting to read what you
have.

The whole process COULD work if I had ample HDD space to rip
each CD before or after I play it. That process would be an
easy way to file the pertinent info automatically. But.. I
don't have the HDD space for the project.

Just get yourself a 4TB hard drive or something.

That seems to be what I will end up doing. 4TB SDD/HDD drives
seem be much lower in price when I first looked into the
matter. I have good days and bad days. On good days, it feels
like it might be fun to just motor through some of my stash and
rip as much as I can.

I have almost 50,000 mp3 files on a 3TB partition of which 2.6T is used, 1.5T of that space is used for videos.

Ah yes.. there is the video issue too. But for me, video is not
as great a concern. I don't glue myself to the TV much at all.
I recently revisited the stash of video/movies at archive.org.
There's a whole wack of fine material obtainable at any time
right there. I recently watched a film from 1949 called
Impact. It was a very smart murder mystery. At nearly 2hrs
running time, that seemed unusual by today's standards.

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